Helping Schools to Become Great Places to Work with Mandy Coalter

The School Podcast The School Podcast Apr 03, 2025

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This episode covers Mandie Coulter's mission to transform schools into great workplaces, emphasizing that excellent employers are fundamental to outstanding education. There are four key takeaways from this conversation. First, improving student outcomes demands that school leaders prioritize creating an excellent work environment for all staff. Second, effective school leadership requires dedicated training in people management, extending beyond traditional educational strategy. Third, systematically reviewing staff workload, embracing flexible working, and leveraging AI can effectively combat burnout. Finally, a positive school culture is built intentionally through structured, evidence-based strategies, not by chance. Mandie Coulter argues that outstanding education directly stems from schools being excellent employers. Prioritizing a supportive work environment for all staff is crucial. This approach links workplace quality directly to improved student outcomes. A significant gap exists in school leadership training. Leaders often excel in curriculum and pedagogy but lack development in people management skills. This deficiency contributes to staff disengagement, sometimes manifesting as 'silent quitting' where employees do only the bare minimum. To combat staff burnout, systematically review workloads, eliminating unnecessary tasks. Flexible working policies also boost morale and retention. AI offers a powerful solution, automating administrative tasks and allowing teachers to focus more on student interaction. Building a positive school culture demands intentional, evidence-based strategies. The 'Four Pillars' framework offers a structured model covering leadership, talent, pupil behavior, and staff wellbeing. Starting with rigorous staff surveys helps identify core issues, ensuring targeted, effective interventions. Ultimately, Mandie Coulter aims for a future where schools inherently possess strong people leadership, making external expertise unnecessary.

Episode Overview

  • Mandie Coulter discusses her mission to transform schools into "great places to work," arguing that being an excellent employer is fundamental to providing outstanding education.
  • The conversation introduces the "four pillars" framework for improving school culture: Leadership & Climate, Talent & Flourishing, Pupil Behaviour Systems, and Wellbeing & Workload.
  • Key challenges in the education sector are explored, including staff burnout, the phenomenon of "silent quitting," and a systemic failure to train school leaders in people management skills.
  • The discussion covers practical solutions for improving staff retention and morale, such as implementing flexible working policies and leveraging AI to reduce administrative burdens.

Key Concepts

  • The Four Pillars Framework: An evidence-based model for creating a great school workplace, focusing on: 1) Leadership, Culture & Climate; 2) Talent & Professional Development; 3) Pupil Behaviour Systems; and 4) Wellbeing, Flexibility & Workload.
  • People Leadership vs. Educational Leadership: A critique of the current system, which excels at training leaders in curriculum and pedagogy but often fails to develop their skills in managing, motivating, and supporting people.
  • Silent Quitting: The phenomenon of disengaged staff doing the bare minimum required, which negatively impacts their wellbeing, their colleagues, and ultimately, student outcomes.
  • Evidence-Based Culture Building: The process of starting any culture-improvement initiative by first gathering a clear evidence base through rigorous staff surveys and focus groups to identify core issues.
  • The Role of AI: The potential for artificial intelligence to significantly reduce teacher workload by automating administrative tasks, thereby freeing up more time for focusing on students.
  • Individual Responsibility: The idea that while leadership sets the tone, staff also have a responsibility to proactively choose a workplace that aligns with their personal values to ensure long-term career satisfaction.

Quotes

  • At 01:55 - "If we want to be the amazing educators... we actually have to be amazing employers." - Mandie linking the quality of the work environment directly to educational outcomes.
  • At 13:25 - "We don't consistently develop people in schools to be great people leaders." - Mandie highlighting a major gap in leadership training within the education sector.
  • At 22:56 - "they've kind of... silently quit... just doing just enough so they don't get fired but not really doing anything more." - Cameron describes the state of disengaged teachers who have lost their passion.
  • At 25:09 - "you're not asking people to do daft things because you've always done them." - Mandy stresses the importance of regularly reviewing workloads to ensure tasks are sensible and purposeful.
  • At 32:18 - "I do want there to come a point when the sector doesn't need me anymore." - Mandy shares her ultimate goal to embed strong people-leadership so thoroughly that her external expertise becomes redundant.

Takeaways

  • To improve student outcomes, school leaders must first focus on creating an excellent work environment for all staff, from teachers to support teams.
  • Effective school leadership requires dedicated training in people management, not just educational strategy.
  • Systematically review staff workload to eliminate unnecessary tasks and explore modern solutions like flexible working and AI to combat burnout.
  • A positive school culture is built intentionally through structured, evidence-based strategies, not by chance.