Find Out Charlie Munger's Advice to Investing Guru Mohnish Pabrai

The Investor's Podcast Network The Investor's Podcast Network Jun 12, 2022

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This episode covers Mohnish Pabrai's insights from his 14-year friendship with Charlie Munger, revealing Munger's lesser-known private persona and core principles, alongside Pabrai's personal philosophies. Four key takeaways emerge from this discussion. Munger exemplified systematic, observational learning and prioritized having an intellectual sounding board. He demonstrated unwavering principle-based decision-making and possessed a profound, empathetic private wisdom. The episode also explores Pabrai's philosophy of living by an inner scorecard. Munger maintained voracious, systematic reading habits, consuming hundreds of books annually. Pabrai learned most profoundly by observing Munger's assembly-line approach to knowledge acquisition, which served as a silent mentorship. Munger believed a true intellectual peer was crucial for investors, advocating for honest discussion without hierarchical bias. He applied a robust ethical framework, enabling instant dismissals of business opportunities that didn't align with his core principles. Beyond his brusque public image, Munger was deeply empathetic. He offered profound personal counsel, including advice on Pabrai's marriage, revealing a "beautiful soul" often shielded by a hard exterior. Mohnish Pabrai lives by an "inner scorecard," defining success through playing his own "games"—in investing, philanthropy, and family—to his best ability, without seeking external validation or concern for public opinion. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the enduring wisdom of Munger and Pabrai, emphasizing principles applicable across investing, personal development, and family life.

Episode Overview

  • Mohnish Pabrai shares profound lessons and personal anecdotes from his 14-year friendship with his mentor, Charlie Munger, revealing a side of Munger rarely seen in public.
  • The discussion covers Charlie Munger's core principles, including his voracious reading habits, rapid ethical decision-making, and the importance of having an intellectual peer.
  • Pabrai details the contrast between Munger's brusque public persona and his deeply empathetic private nature, sharing how Munger provided crucial advice on personal matters.
  • The conversation explores Pabrai's own life philosophy, particularly his unconventional parenting strategies centered on trust and his focus on living by an "inner scorecard."

Key Concepts

  • Mentorship Through Observation: Pabrai's most profound lessons from Munger came not from direct advice but from observing his habits, like his systematic, "assembly line" approach to reading.
  • The Intellectual Sounding Board: Munger believed it was critical for investors to have a peer to discuss ideas with, leading him to orchestrate a regular meeting between Mohnish Pabrai and Li Lu.
  • Principle-Based Decision-Making: Munger's ability to make instant judgments on complex business ideas by filtering them through a simple, robust ethical framework.
  • The Dual Nature of Great Minds: The idea that brilliant individuals like Buffett and Munger possess a "hard exterior" to protect their "beautiful souls" and manage the demands of the world, revealing a much softer, empathetic side in private.
  • Wisdom Beyond Investing: Munger’s expertise was not limited to finance; he possessed deep insights into complex "human things" and provided profound personal and marital counsel.
  • Parenting with Unconditional Trust: Pabrai’s philosophy of raising children by trusting them completely, particularly with financial freedom, to empower them to pursue passion over monetary gain.
  • The Inner Scorecard: A life philosophy centered on playing your own "games" (investing, philanthropy, family) to the best of your ability, without concern for external opinion or validation.
  • Recognizing Talent: Munger's method of identifying exceptional individuals like Li Lu was a "no-brainer" based simply on their undeniable and extraordinary track record.

Quotes

  • At 1:18 - "All of us are very privileged to be living in the time of Warren and Charlie... it'd be kind of like living in the time of Newton or Einstein." - Mohnish Pabrai on the historical significance of Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger.
  • At 2:44 - "My wife told him... her true love in life really was Charlie. And Warren immediately told her that Charlie's a very boring guy and I'm really the one of the two who's way more interesting." - Pabrai recounts how Warren Buffett's competitive nature led to him arranging Pabrai's first lunch with Charlie Munger.
  • At 4:42 - "The next day I wiped Sears holdings out of my portfolio, which was a great instant take-home value from the lunch." - Pabrai explains the immediate action he took after Munger's non-verbal disapproval of his Sears investment.
  • At 9:03 - "Charlie is like an assembly line... devouring—I mean, there's an engine of these things running through from the unread pile to the read pile. And I would estimate that he's reading more than 500 books a year." - Pabrai on Charlie Munger's voracious and systematic reading habits.
  • At 27:16 - "'It's really important that you have somebody to talk to. And the person shouldn't be someone who reports to you. It should be kind of like a peer-type relationship.'" - Pabrai elaborating on Munger's advice about the specific kind of sounding board an investor needs.
  • At 34:27 - "When I asked Charlie the question, he said, 'Well, it was a complete no-brainer.' And he said, 'I just had to look at the track record.'" - Pabrai relaying Munger's simple reasoning for recognizing Li Lu's exceptional talent.
  • At 34:49 - "He was on student loans... and on the float of the student loans... when he graduated, he had a million dollars." - Pabrai explaining the specific achievement of Li Lu that deeply impressed Charlie Munger.
  • At 39:56 - "He just said, 'We don't want to own that kind of business.' And it took him less than five seconds." - Pabrai describing Charlie Munger’s instant dismissal of a business because its model didn't align with his ethical framework.
  • At 51:22 - "The error rate, even for the best of us, is going to be really high." - Pabrai stressing the importance of humility in investing, acknowledging that even the most skilled investors will frequently be wrong.
  • At 59:55 - "Don't do anything, just keep them." - Mohnish Pabrai describing Warren Buffett's advice to his partners upon dissolving his partnership in 1974.
  • At 1:01:46 - "I think both Warren and Charlie have beautiful souls. And those souls have are covered with a hard exterior." - Mohnish Pabrai explaining his view on the true personalities of Buffett and Munger.
  • At 1:02:22 - "I find that Charlie is a very different person when I'm playing bridge with him or when I'm having dinner with him versus at the Berkshire meeting... two very different people." - Mohnish Pabrai on the difference between Munger's private and public personas.
  • At 1:03:09 - "When I was having trouble in my marriage and I discussed those things with him, he was amazing. He was just incredible." - Mohnish Pabrai sharing a personal story about Munger's profound personal guidance.
  • At 95:05 - "It's not what we say to them. It's what they observe." - Mohnish Pabrai shares his core parenting principle, emphasizing that children learn from their parents' actions and behaviors, not their words.
  • At 96:21 - "Anytime you need any amount of the money, you just go to my wallet and take it. You don't need to tell me how much you took, and you do not need to tell me how you spent it." - Pabrai recounts the immense trust his own father placed in him starting at age 15.
  • At 97:17 - "At 14, I gave them Amex Platinum cards... I said, 'This has no spending limit, and you can spend on anything you want.'" - Pabrai explains how he empowered his daughters with total financial freedom and trust.
  • At 98:54 - "I want you to choose professions and careers based on what you love to do, not based on what pays the most money." - Pabrai explains the ultimate purpose behind giving his daughters financial security early on.
  • At 1:05:45 - "The kindness is a much harder thing to do. I have learned over the years to become kinder and to be kinder, but I think I have a long ways to go." - Pabrai candidly admits that cultivating kindness has been a more challenging, ongoing process than being truthful.
  • At 1:09:45 - "I like to play games... and I just want to play this game the best I can play and that's the end of it. I don't really care what other people think or say." - Pabrai describes his life philosophy, driven entirely by his inner scorecard.

Takeaways

  • Cultivate a systematic and relentless learning habit, treating knowledge acquisition like an assembly line to compound wisdom over time.
  • Find an intellectual peer who can serve as a sounding board to challenge your ideas and prevent you from operating in an echo chamber.
  • Develop a clear ethical framework for your decisions and be willing to dismiss opportunities instantly if they don't align with your principles.
  • Pay close attention to the non-verbal cues and actions of mentors, as they can provide more powerful guidance than direct verbal advice.
  • When evaluating talent or opportunities, prioritize the tangible track record of performance above all else.
  • Accept that a high error rate is an inherent part of investing and decision-making; maintain humility and focus on a sound process.
  • Live by an "inner scorecard," defining success on your own terms rather than by external validation or public opinion.
  • In parenting or mentorship, remember that your actions and behaviors are far more influential than your words.
  • Empower children with unconditional trust and freedom, especially financially, to foster responsibility and enable them to pursue careers based on passion.
  • Look beyond the public persona of successful people, as a brusque exterior may be a protective shield for a kind and empathetic core.
  • Consciously practice kindness, recognizing that it is often a more difficult and deliberate skill to develop than honesty.
  • Apply your core principles and wisdom to all areas of life, not just your profession, as they are equally valuable in navigating personal and family challenges.