BITCOIN EM QUEDA LIVRE: AINDA VALE A PENA INVESTIR? | O QUE ESPERAR PARA 2026 | Os Economistas 208

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Os Economistas Podcast Feb 13, 2026

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In this conversation, the speakers dismantle traditional views of crypto market cycles, arguing that the true opportunity for accumulation lies not in the panic of a crash, but in the subsequent "Valley of Boredom." There are three key takeaways from this discussion. First, investors are urged to distinguish sharply between Bitcoin as a scarce economic asset and the rest of the crypto market. Second, the conversation highlights how the massive derivatives market creates "paper abundance" that suppresses Bitcoin's price discovery. Third, the speakers offer a specific framework for valuing assets, favoring "fresh narratives" over older tokens burdened by historical baggage. Regarding the distinction between assets, the speakers argue that Bitcoin and "Crypto" must be treated as entirely separate categories. Bitcoin functions as a decentralized monetary network and a hedge against the potential failure of the Eurodollar system. In contrast, 99 percent of the remaining crypto market is described as venture capital tech bets or speculative garbage. Conflating these two leads to poor risk management, as Bitcoin represents long-term insurance while altcoins represent high-risk gambling. On the structure of the market, the discussion reveals a critical imbalance between spot and futures markets. Unlike gold, where futures volumes are generally comparable to spot markets, Bitcoin futures are often three to six times larger than the spot market. This dominance allows institutional capital to bet on price action without ever buying the underlying asset. This dynamic creates a "paper supply" that dilutes Bitcoin's scarcity, meaning that fair price is often discovered by algorithms hunting leverage rather than by organic supply and demand. Finally, the speakers provide a tactical approach to asset selection, specifically warning against "zombie" coins from previous cycles. Older assets often face significant "overhang," where investors from past years are waiting to sell at breakeven, creating immense selling pressure that caps upside potential. Instead, the market favors "fresh" assets with no price history or those offering "Real Yield," where protocols distribute actual revenue to holders, allowing for valuation models similar to traditional equities. Ultimately, this episode suggests that while mass adoption will eventually arrive through geopolitical necessity and the failure of traditional finance, the current market requires a disciplined focus on accumulation during periods of low volatility and apathy.

Episode Overview

  • Understanding the True Market Cycle: This episode dismantles the idea that market bottoms are marked by panic, arguing instead that the best time to accumulate is during the "Valley of Boredom"—a period of low volatility and apathy that follows the crash.
  • Bitcoin vs. "Crypto": A sharp distinction is drawn between Bitcoin (a unique economic phenomenon and scarce asset) and the rest of the crypto market (99.9% of which is described as venture capital tech bets or "garbage").
  • The Structural Problem of Derivatives: The discussion reveals how the futures market—which is 3x to 6x larger than the spot market—suppresses Bitcoin's price by creating "paper abundance," effectively neutralizing its scarcity value proposition.
  • Geopolitics and Utility: Beyond price speculation, the episode explores Bitcoin's role as insurance against the Eurodollar system's collapse and a tool for "enemies" and sanctioned nations to settle trade, highlighting its censorship resistance.
  • Actionable Investment Philosophy: The speakers provide frameworks for valuing assets, warning against "zombie" altcoins from past cycles and explaining why "Real Yield" or fresh narratives often outperform older tokens laden with bagholders.

Key Concepts

  • The "Valley of Boredom" Strategy Contrary to popular belief, the safest time to buy is not during the "blood in the streets" panic phase, but during the subsequent period of apathy. This phase, characterized by low volume and disinterest, indicates that speculative "tourists" have been flushed out, leaving only high-conviction holders.

  • The Futures Dilution Thesis Bitcoin's scarcity (21 million coins) is currently being undermined by the derivatives market. Unlike Gold (where futures are 0.5x-1x spot size), Bitcoin futures are 3x-6x larger than the spot market. This allows massive capital to bet on price action without buying the underlying asset, creating "paper supply" that dampens the price impact of demand.

  • Separation of Assets: Bitcoin vs. Crypto Investors must treat Bitcoin and "Crypto" as two different asset classes. Bitcoin is a decentralized monetary network and a hedge against fiat debasement. The rest of the market ("Crypto") consists of tech startups and speculative tokens. Conflating the two leads to poor risk management.

  • Price Discovery Displacement Because derivatives dominate the market volume, the "fair price" of Bitcoin is often discovered by algorithms hunting leverage and liquidity in the futures market, rather than by actual supply and demand for the asset. This leads to volatility that is disconnected from fundamental value.

  • "Real Yield" vs. Narrative Speculation The market is maturing from pure speculation to "Real Yield." Institutional investors require valuation models (like Discounted Cash Flow). Tokens that distribute protocol revenue to holders can be valued like equities, making them more attractive to serious capital than tokens that rely solely on the "greater fool theory."

  • The "Pain" Theory of Adoption Mass adoption of Bitcoin will not come through education or better user interfaces, but through necessity. Individuals and nations will adopt independent money only when the traditional financial system fails them via sanctions, seizure, or hyperinflation.

  • Auditability as the Killer App Bitcoin's superiority over Gold lies in auditability. While Gold reserves (like Fort Knox) require trust and are hard to verify, Bitcoin allows any user to audit the entire supply and their own holdings 24/7. This makes it a superior bearer asset in an age of low trust.

  • The Altcoin "Overhang" Problem Old altcoins rarely return to all-time highs because of "bagholders"—investors from previous cycles waiting to sell at breakeven. This creates immense selling pressure (overhang). "Fresh" coins often outperform because they lack this historical resistance.

Quotes

  • At 0:16:05 - "The bottom of the crash... was never when things were exploding... The bottom was always in the 'Valley of Boredom'." - Explains that the safest time to enter a market is often when it is boring and volatility has died, rather than trying to catch a falling knife.
  • At 0:16:45 - "This cycle of four years is nothing more than a reflection of the natural tendencies of human beings to get excited about something they don't understand." - Shifts the perspective of market cycles from technical analysis to behavioral economics.
  • At 0:18:15 - "I consider that Bitcoin is one thing and the rest of the crypto market is another... of the rest of the crypto market, 99.9% of what we have there is garbage." - A definitive statement on asset classification, warning investors against conflating Bitcoin with risky tokens.
  • At 0:28:38 - "The Bitcoin futures market tends to be 3 to 6 times larger than the Bitcoin spot market... The gold futures market is half to the same size as the spot market." - Provides a crucial data point showing that Bitcoin is far more speculative and leveraged than gold.
  • At 0:29:45 - "You allow a gigantic portion of capital to expose itself [to Bitcoin] without buying... You turn a scarce asset into an infinitely abundant one." - Explains how financial derivatives suppress the price of a scarce asset by satisfying demand with "paper" versions.
  • At 0:31:52 - "Does the prediction market finance possibilities? If the chances of a possibility occurring pay well, then someone can manifest that event to get the prize." - Introduces the concept of "Self-Fulfilling Prophecies" in markets where betting influences the outcome.
  • At 0:36:19 - "It's mathematically money on the table... It's not 'manipulation,' it's Excel." - Argues that price crashes aren't grand conspiracies, but traders using algorithms to trigger cascading liquidations for profit.
  • At 0:40:44 - "Bitcoin doesn't care... It is money for enemies. It is precisely the fact that Bitcoin is usable by the most deplorable people on the planet that gives me the guarantee that I will be able to use it in any circumstance." - Defining the neutrality and censorship resistance of the protocol.
  • At 0:45:50 - "We flew too close to the sun and paid the price for thinking we were superior to many things... The market is paying a bit for its arrogance." - Admitting the crypto industry underestimated traditional finance and is suffering a reality check.
  • At 0:58:38 - "[With Real Yield tokens] you can calculate a 'Fair Value'... If I buy this token today, in how much time will it pay for itself in dividends? You can calculate ROI." - Explaining how crypto valuation is maturing into traditional financial metrics.
  • At 1:02:43 - "I see Bitcoin as a hedge against the base of the global fiduciary system... against the base of the Eurodollar system." - Shifts the thesis from "Bitcoin is a tech stock" to "Bitcoin is insurance against systemic financial failure."
  • At 1:09:08 - "Every valuation model is a fiction... fables that people, usually in suits and ties, tell each other to coordinate themselves in this adventurous game." - Highlights the narrative-driven nature of asset pricing where shared belief determines value.
  • At 1:12:35 - "The dollar is an infinitely expandable ruler... and a ruler that deforms is not a good ruler." - A metaphor explaining why fiat currency fails as a unit of measurement due to inflation.
  • At 1:14:50 - "Adoption implies... either you entered it, or you went bankrupt. You entered it to not feel pain." - Argues that mass adoption stems from pain and necessity, not education or technology.
  • At 1:19:22 - "The only asset I can take to the grave... kept in my mind. For this use case, it is difficult to surpass Bitcoin." - Defines Bitcoin's absolute property rights and the power of memorizing a seed phrase.
  • At 1:36:56 - "The gold market is a paper gold market... everyday trading is virtual. There is no mechanism... for you to audit if the physical gold corresponds to the paper certificate." - Explaining why Bitcoin's native digital auditability makes it safer than gold certificates.
  • At 1:40:55 - "If the dollar is infinitely expandable, then it is an infinitely deformable ruler." - Reinforcing the concept that measuring value with a stretching ruler makes accurate pricing impossible.
  • At 1:55:10 - "The business of maintaining an ETF isn't the ETF itself, it's the arbitrage between the virtualized asset... and the real asset price." - Demystifying how ETFs work; they profit from liquidity gaps and amplify market direction.
  • At 2:10:45 - "I tend to like... new coins, which I think have fresh narratives and don't have this burden, this 'overhang', of everyone who bought before and never saw an all-time high." - A crucial investment lesson on why "fresh" altcoins often outperform "zombie" coins.
  • At 2:19:30 - "Crypto technology is showing the traditional market that it is a very sexy technology... In a globalized world where I have socioeconomic problems 24/7, how can I not trade 24/7?" - Highlight that banks want blockchain's efficiency, not necessarily its ideology.

Takeaways

  • Buy the "Boredom": Avoid buying during euphoric highs or panic lows. Accumulate assets when the market is flat, boring, and volume is low—this is the true bottom.
  • Separate Your Portfolio: Treat Bitcoin as long-term insurance (savings) and Altcoins as high-risk venture capital bets (gambling). Do not apply the same risk management rules to both.
  • Watch the Futures Ratio: Monitor the ratio of Futures Open Interest to Spot Volume. If futures are significantly higher (3x+), expect volatility and price suppression rather than organic growth.
  • Beware of "Zombie" Coins: Be extremely cautious investing in Altcoins from previous cycles (3+ years old). They likely have massive "overhang" from bagholders waiting to sell, capping their upside.
  • Seek "Fresh" Narratives: When speculating on Altcoins, favor newer projects with no price history. They lack the resistance levels of older coins and can move faster on hype.
  • Understand "Real Yield": For safer crypto exposure, look for protocols that generate actual revenue and distribute it to token holders. These can be valued using traditional models and are more resilient in high-interest rate environments.
  • Use Bitcoin as a Hedge, Not a Trade: View your Bitcoin allocation as insurance against the failure of the Eurodollar system and fiat currency debasement, not as a tool for short-term profit.
  • Don't Trust, Verify: Recognize that "paper gold" and ETFs carry counterparty risk. If you want true safety, self-custody your Bitcoin so you can audit your own reserves 24/7.
  • Expect Manipulation: Accept that in a market dominated by derivatives, algorithms will "hunt" your leverage. Avoid using high leverage, as you are likely betting against bots that can see your liquidation price.
  • Ignore the "Education" Fallacy: Don't wait for the world to "understand" Bitcoin to buy it. Adoption will come from geopolitical pain and necessity, not because people learned how the blockchain works.
  • Monitor Global Sanctions: Watch geopolitical news regarding sanctions (e.g., Russia, Iran). The more the US weaponizes the dollar, the stronger the long-term case for Bitcoin as a neutral settlement layer becomes.
  • Stablecoins for Stability: If you are in a high-inflation jurisdiction, use stablecoins for immediate capital preservation, but recognize they are still subject to centralized risks compared to Bitcoin.