Why CEOs Are Getting AI Wrong — with Ethan Mollick | Prof G Conversations
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Episode Overview
- Explores the rapid evolution of Artificial Intelligence, moving from simple chatbots to "agentic" systems capable of executing complex tasks autonomously.
- Examines the "Shadow AI" phenomenon where workers secretly use AI for massive productivity gains that companies fail to capture or measure.
- Discusses the "Jagged Frontier" of AI capabilities, explaining why models can be brilliant at hard tasks yet fail at simple ones, and how this impacts daily work.
- Analyzes the breakdown of the traditional apprenticeship model and the shifting bottlenecks of the industry from data availability to physical energy constraints.
- Provides a framework for individuals and organizations to adopt AI effectively, emphasizing experimentation and the shift from efficiency (cost-cutting) to expansion (doing more).
Key Concepts
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The "Jagged Frontier" of Capabilities Unlike human intelligence, which is generally consistent, AI capabilities are uneven. A model might pass the Bar Exam but fail basic math or logic puzzles. Because of this, users cannot assume that competency in a hard task implies competency in an easier one. Success requires "mapping the frontier"—constantly experimenting to see what the specific model is good or bad at in a specific domain.
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Shadow AI and the Productivity Paradox There is a significant gap between individual productivity (workers reporting 30-50% gains) and corporate-level data. This is driven by "Shadow AI," where employees use tools secretly to avoid being assigned more work or fired. Currently, the productivity surplus is being captured by workers as free time rather than by companies as increased output.
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The Scaling Laws This is the economic engine of the AI boom. Evidence suggests a predictable relationship: increasing the data and compute (chips/energy) fed into a model makes it smarter. This drives massive capital expenditure by tech giants, as they believe larger data centers will inevitably lead to superior intelligence.
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Agentic AI vs. Chatbots The technology is shifting from "Chatbots" (consultants you talk to) to "Agents" (workers that do the job). An agent is an AI wrapped in a "harness" of tools—like internet access and coding environments—that can autonomously correct its course to achieve a specific goal.
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The Collapse of Apprenticeship AI is disrupting the traditional method of professional development. For centuries, juniors learned by doing "grunt work" (basic coding, writing memos). AI is now superior at these entry-level tasks. This breaks the talent pipeline: if juniors cannot do the basic work to learn, they cannot acquire the expertise needed to become the seniors who manage the AI.
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The Leadership, Lab, and Crowd Model A framework for corporate adoption:
- Leadership: Sets incentives (assuring workers they won't be fired for using AI).
- Crowd: The employees who experiment and discover actual use cases.
- Lab: An internal team that validates and scales the best ideas found by the crowd.
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Efficiency vs. Expansion (Jevons Paradox) Companies currently focus on using AI for efficiency (doing the same work with fewer people). The real value lies in expansion (doing significantly more work with the same people). For example, if coding becomes 10x faster, companies should produce 10x more features rather than firing 90% of developers.
Quotes
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At 2:20 - "I am actually much more concerned in thinking about how we guide the next few years to make AI help people thrive and succeed rather than the negative consequences... How do we model the right kinds of work so that when we start using AI at work, that we do it in ways that empower people rather than fire people?" - Arguing that practical implementation is more urgent than sci-fi doom scenarios.
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At 5:08 - "They're just not giving that [productivity] to companies, right? Because why would you? Like, you're worried you'll get fired if AI shows that you're more efficient... You look like a genius right now... You're doing less work." - Explaining why corporate productivity metrics aren't reflecting the gains seen by individual users.
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At 8:35 - "Part of the value of giving people access to these tools is experts figure out use cases. If you're doing something in a field you know well, it's very cheap to experiment with AI and figure out what it's good or bad at because you're doing the job anyway." - Emphasizing that workers, not top-down management, are the best R&D engines for AI utility.
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At 10:17 - "An agent... basically can be defined as an AI tool that is given access to tools... that when given a goal, can autonomously try and accomplish that goal on its own and correct its course if it needs to." - Providing the functional definition of the shift from passive LLMs to active Agents.
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At 11:42 - "The good thing about AI is it's very democratic... You or every kid in Mozambique has access to the exact same tools that are at Goldman Sachs or the Department of Defense." - Highlighting that access to frontier technology is nearly universal rather than gated by enterprise contracts.
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At 13:44 - "The scaling laws basically tell you the larger your AI model is—which means the more data you need to build it, the more data centers, the more electricity, the more chips—the better your AI model is." - Explaining why tech giants are spending billions on infrastructure; size correlates directly with intelligence.
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At 25:57 - "The cost of models has dropped 99.9% for the same intelligence level in three years... you actually want the smartest model that's most capable of doing tasks as cheaply as possible." - Explaining why using older, cheaper models is a risky strategy when intelligence is the premium asset.
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At 36:50 - "They learn how to do their job the same way we've taught people for 4,000 years, which is apprenticeship... If you're an intern at a company this last summer, you absolutely were using Claude or ChatGPT... because it's better than you at your job." - Identifying the crisis in training junior employees as AI takes over entry-level tasks.
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At 49:36 - "Preparing resilient kids who are self-reliant and have some ability to improvise is more important than ever... thinking about how you want to take your next step on your own rather than following a predefined path." - Advice on navigating careers when traditional ladders are disappearing.
Takeaways
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Treat your daily work as a research lab. Because there are no established best practices yet, you must personally experiment with AI to find where it succeeds or fails in your specific domain.
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Change the incentive structure to uncover "Shadow AI." Leaders must explicitly assure employees that AI efficiency will lead to new opportunities, not layoffs, or workers will continue to hide their productivity gains.
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Focus on "expansion" rather than "efficiency." Instead of using AI to cut costs, look for areas where 10x speed or output allows you to do things previously impossible (e.g., translating every document rather than just a few).
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Prepare for the death of the "ladder." Junior professionals must become self-reliant and learn to improvise their career paths, as the entry-level tasks traditionally used for learning are being automated.
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Select the right "personality" for the job. Do not treat models as interchangeable commodities; test different models (Claude, GPT, Gemini) to find the specific cognitive style that matches your current task.