WAYT? 12-23-2025

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The Compound Dec 22, 2025

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This episode analyzes the mechanics of Wall Street forecasting, explaining why price targets are often misleading while underlying earnings models remain surprisingly accurate. There are four key takeaways from this conversation. First, investors should treat Wall Street price targets as a compass, not a GPS. Strategists are historically poor at predicting market sentiment and valuation multiples, which drives the headline price target. However, they are remarkably accurate at modeling corporate business performance. The smart move is to ignore the year-end S&P 500 target number and instead focus on the direction of earnings revisions. If analysts are consistently revising earnings per share upward, the business fundamentals are healthy regardless of where the stock price sits today. Second, the current market is being driven by the power of operating leverage. In 2022, fears of a recession forced companies to slash costs and reduce headcount. This created a leaner, more efficient corporate structure. Now, as revenue begins to return, that money flows directly to the bottom line because expenses are fixed at a lower level. This dynamic allows profits to grow significantly faster than revenue, justifying higher stock valuations even in a complex economic environment. Third, the narrative of market fragility due to concentration in Big Tech is becoming outdated. The conversation highlights a broadening market where the average stock is participating more than headline indices suggest. This opens a specific bullish case for Small Caps. The Russell 2000 is positioned for a potential re-rating due to a dual catalyst: falling interest rates which help companies with floating-rate debt, and AI tools that can artificially boost profit margins for smaller firms. If margins expand, the entire sector could see significant upside. Finally, policy driven growth is proving to be a powerful market force, best exemplified by Japan. The recent resurgence in Japanese equities wasn't just monetary; it was driven by the Tokyo Stock Exchange mandating that companies trading below book value improve shareholder returns or face delisting. This structural policy forced buybacks and efficiency, proving that governance reform can be just as potent as monetary policy. In summary, successful investing right now requires looking past headline price targets to focus on corporate efficiency, recognizing the widening breadth of the market, and watching for structural governance shifts that unlock value.

Episode Overview

  • This episode analyzes the mechanics of Wall Street forecasting, explaining why price targets are often wrong but underlying earnings models are surprisingly accurate.
  • The discussion breaks down the structural shift in the market known as "operating leverage," where 2022 cost-cutting measures are now fueling massive profit growth as revenues return.
  • The narrative shifts from the dominance of "Big Tech" to a broadening market, specifically highlighting a bullish case for Small Caps and Japanese equities.
  • It provides a framework for understanding current valuations, arguing that high prices are supported by lean corporate efficiency rather than just speculative hype.

Key Concepts

  • Price Targets as Directional Tools Wall Street year-end price targets should be viewed as a "compass" (indicating bullish or bearish direction) rather than a "GPS" (providing a precise destination). While analysts are historically poor at predicting market sentiment (P/E multiples), they are highly accurate at modeling corporate business performance (Earnings Per Share). Investors should focus on the earnings revisions within reports rather than the headline price target.

  • The Power of Operating Leverage A defining feature of the current market cycle is the result of the "Year of Efficiency." In 2022, companies slashed costs and headcount out of fear of a recession. Now, as revenue returns, that money flows directly to the bottom line because expenses are fixed lower. This creates "operating leverage," where profits grow significantly faster than revenue, justifying higher stock valuations.

  • The Fallacy of "Average" Returns While the long-term historical average of the stock market is roughly 8-10%, the market rarely delivers this specific number in a single year. It usually overshoots significantly (bull run) or undershoots (correction). Forecasting the "average" is a career-safety move for strategists, but investors should expect volatility rather than a smooth 9% ride.

  • Small Cap Re-rating Catalyst The Russell 2000 (Small Caps) is poised for a potential explosion due to a dual catalyst: falling interest rates and AI productivity. Lower rates disproportionately help smaller companies with floating-rate debt, while AI tools can artificially boost their profit margins. If margins expand to ~15%, the entire sector could re-rate upwards by 30% or more.

  • Market Breadth vs. Concentration The narrative that the market is fragile because it relies solely on the "Magnificent 7" is outdated. Data shows that since late 2023, market breadth has widened, with the average stock participating more and sectors like Industrials and Materials rallying. The "concentration risk" fear caused many investors to miss a broad-based rally.

  • Supply, Demand, and "Sticky" Inflation Using car prices as a case study, the episode explains that high prices are a function of consumer resilience. Prices (inflation) remain high not just due to supply chain costs, but because the market can bear them. Prices will only revert when demand collapses; as long as employment is strong and consumers pay, prices stay "sticky."

  • Policy-Driven Growth (The Japan Model) The resurgence in Japanese markets serves as a lesson in corporate governance. The rally was driven by the Tokyo Stock Exchange mandating that companies trading below book value must improve shareholder returns or delist. This structural policy forced buybacks and efficiency, proving that governance reform can be as powerful as monetary policy.

Quotes

  • At 0:06:03 - "Don't think of it as a GPS, think of it as a compass... it's about how they think about the direction of the markets in a given moment." - Context: Explaining how to properly utilize Wall Street strategy reports.
  • At 0:09:35 - "The average throughout history when it comes to strategist price targets amounts to 8.9%, which is that sweet spot... [but] the margin of error is about 14 percentage points relative to what has actually happened." - Context: Highlighting the statistical safety vs. actual uselessness of "average" predictions.
  • At 0:13:42 - "When analysts or strategists or economists start tripping over themselves to cut their estimates, that's when the inflection point sets in." - Context: Identifying how peak bearish sentiment often signals a market bottom.
  • At 0:15:23 - "The cost structures for companies have become so refreshed and lean and efficient that just a little bit of revenue growth is going to get you that earnings growth." - Context: Detailing the mechanics of operating leverage post-2022.
  • At 0:21:49 - "Tough times in the market lead to great times. All of these companies got the message in 2022 that Covid-era spending was out of control." - Context: Why corporate profitability remains robust despite economic headwinds.
  • At 0:27:35 - "With lower interest rates coming... and with productivity gains coming... from AI, you could see a material move higher... you could see small caps... smash next year." - Context: The macroeconomic bull case for the Russell 2000.
  • At 0:33:57 - "At the beginning of the year, analysts came into 2025 predicting on average $274 EPS... Where is it right now? $271. It is a rounding error." - Context: Proving that Wall Street is actually very capable of modeling business earnings.
  • At 0:38:35 - "The people that bought into that narrative that... [concentration] was a huge risk... I think sat out a lot of the gains of this year." - Context: Critiquing the fear-mongering regarding the "Magnificent 7."
  • At 0:45:53 - "Where do those prices come from? Not from outer space. This is what the market will bear. And the minute that's not true... you f-ing watch what happens to the prices." - Context: A lesson on inflation and consumer demand elasticity.
  • At 0:47:56 - "As a firm, we are in risk reduction mode. We preach risk reduction, our balance sheet is in risk reduction mode." - Context: A contrarian warning signal coming from the private equity sector (Apollo).
  • At 0:59:50 - "The Tokyo Stock Exchange... told all the companies in the stock market: get your sh-t together, too many of you are selling below book value... All that sh-t worked." - Context: Explaining the policy mechanism behind Japan's market rally.

Takeaways

  • Monitor Analyst Earnings Revisions, Not Price Targets: Ignore the headline "S&P 500 Target" number. Instead, watch if analysts are revising Earnings Per Share (EPS) up or down. EPS forecasts are highly accurate and indicate the true health of the business.
  • Position for the Small Cap Re-rating: Consider exposure to the Russell 2000 or regional banks to capitalize on the "catch-up" trade, driven by the yield curve steepening and AI-driven margin expansion in smaller firms.
  • Buy the Producer, Not the Commodity: In sectors like precious metals, own the equity (miners) rather than the physical asset (gold). The operational leverage in mining stocks allowed them to vastly outperform the commodity price (167% vs 30%) in 2024.
  • Watch the "Deregulation Trade": Keep an eye on companies poised to benefit from looser regulations (like Robinhood or crypto-adjacent stocks). The market is signaling a willingness to reward non-traditional finance as political winds shift.
  • Look for "Lean" Companies: When selecting individual stocks, prioritize companies that aggressively cut costs in 2022. These firms have the highest potential for profit explosions as revenue begins to normalize.
  • Don't Bet on the "Average": Structure your portfolio with the understanding that the market will likely deviate significantly from the 8-10% historical average. Prepare for volatility rather than steady, linear compounding in any single calendar year.