“SR.MERCADO” NÃO PASSA DE UM ILUDIDO AFOBADO: AS VERDADES SOBRE AS AÇÕES BRASILEIRAS
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This episode features Marcos Peixoto, who discusses how his fund achieved top performance in a challenging year through disciplined investment and an adaptable philosophy within Brazil's unique market.
The discussion yields three key takeaways. First, emotional discipline during market volatility is paramount. The fund's primary success came from not panicking during late 2022's downturn, allowing them to benefit from existing positions. This highlights that mastering emotional control often yields greater alpha than complex financial models.
Second, an investment strategy must adapt to specific market realities. Brazil's "mega-static" stock market, with its limited dominant companies, renders rigid, dogmatic approaches impractical. Opportunities are found by remaining valuation-driven across all sectors, including often-undervalued cyclical commodities and state-owned enterprises.
Third, cultivating a stable, internally developed team is crucial for rational decision-making. Peixoto's "prata da casa" philosophy fosters a cohesive, low-turnover culture. This healthy team environment directly enables patient investment decisions and a long-term perspective, essential for navigating market cycles that quickly anoint "geniuses and villains."
Ultimately, sustained success requires a deep understanding of market cycles, unwavering discipline, and a flexible, valuation-driven approach supported by a strong internal culture.
Episode Overview
- Marcos Peixoto discusses how his fund achieved top performance in a challenging year by maintaining discipline and avoiding panic during the market downturn at the end of 2022.
- He details his investment philosophy, emphasizing the need for flexibility in Brazil's "mega-static" market, arguing against a rigid, dogmatic approach and for investing across all sectors, including commodities and state-owned enterprises.
- Peixoto explains his current portfolio positioning, including reducing exposure to utilities after their rally and maintaining positions in banks and low-income housing.
- The conversation explores his management style, which focuses on building a cohesive, low-turnover team by developing talent internally ("prata da casa").
- Peixoto shares his long-term perspective on investing, stressing the importance of a healthy team culture for rational decision-making and understanding that markets are cyclical.
Key Concepts
- Emotional Discipline: The fund's primary success factor for the year was not panicking during the market depression of late 2022, allowing them to benefit from their existing positions.
- Low-Risk Outperformance: Strong returns were generated by holding a defensive, liquid, and undervalued portfolio concentrated in sectors like utilities, banks, and healthcare.
- Portfolio Evolution: While utilities were a key driver of past returns, exposure is being reduced as the equity risk premium has compressed, making them less attractive.
- Investment Flexibility in Brazil: Peixoto argues that Brazil's "mega-static" stock market, with a limited number of dominant companies, makes a rigid, Buffett-style investment philosophy impractical.
- Valuation-Driven Approach: While quality is important, the right price is non-negotiable. This requires looking for opportunities across all sectors, including cyclical commodities and state-owned enterprises, which are often undervalued.
- Skepticism of Growth Narratives: Many "disruptive" and "growth" investment theses in Brazil have failed, reinforcing a more cautious, value-oriented approach.
- "Prata da Casa" Team Building: The philosophy of developing talent from within, rather than hiring external stars, fosters a more cohesive, aligned, and long-lasting team culture.
- Market Cyclicality: The market moves in cycles that quickly create and destroy "geniuses and villains," making a long-term perspective essential for navigating volatility.
Quotes
- At 2:08 - "Mas eu acho que o nosso grande acerto no ano, na verdade, foi não ter... panicado ali em dezembro do ano passado." - Marcos Peixoto identifies the key to their success: not reacting emotionally to the market downturn at the end of the previous year.
- At 4:08 - "Acho que o maior gerador de alfa individual do que a gente fez foi o setor de educação, especificamente a posição de Cogna." - Marcos Peixoto highlights the education sector, particularly the stock Cogna, as the single biggest contributor to their fund's outperformance.
- At 22:02 - "O equity risk premium ali, ele meio que comprimiu." - Peixoto explains why the utilities sector has become less attractive after its recent rally, noting that the risk premium over government bonds has significantly narrowed.
- At 28:52 - "Eu acho que o Brasil é um país que a gente tem aqui, infelizmente, uma bolsa mega estática, né?" - He describes the Brazilian stock market as having very little turnover in its main companies over 20 years, making it difficult to adhere to a rigid investment style.
- At 29:08 - "Então, eu acho que você ficar preso, né, num mantra único, numa bolsa que tem ali 150 empresas pra se investir... você vai ficar muito preso em poucas empresas." - Peixoto argues that the limited universe of investable stocks in Brazil requires flexibility, as being dogmatically attached to a single philosophy means missing opportunities.
- At 32:06 - "E nessa linha de time, assim, é fazer prata da casa." - Peixoto explains his management philosophy of developing talent internally ("homegrown talent") to foster a stronger and more aligned team culture.
- At 35:10 - "Eu acho que o clima [de trabalho], ele ajuda muito a você pensar melhor, eh, você ter mais paciência e tomar a decisão certa." - He emphasizes that a healthy, autonomous team environment is crucial for making rational and patient investment decisions.
- At 51:42 - "Cara, o mercado são ciclos. Você cria gênios e vilões muito rápidos, assim, no mercado." - Peixoto advises investors to maintain a long-term perspective and not be discouraged by bad years, reminding them of the market's cyclical nature.
Takeaways
- Mastering emotional control during market volatility is a greater source of alpha than complex financial modeling; the decision to not panic is often the most profitable one.
- Adapt your investment strategy to the realities of your specific market rather than rigidly adhering to a single, universal philosophy.
- To find the best opportunities, be willing to invest across all market sectors, including cyclical and state-owned companies, where value is often overlooked.
- Invest in building a stable, internally-developed team, as a positive and low-pressure culture is a direct input for better, more patient decision-making.
- Maintain a long-term perspective and ignore the short-term noise that anoints market "geniuses" and "villains," as conviction through cycles is the key to sustained success.