Protect & Improve Your Hearing & Brain Health | Dr. Konstantina Stankovic

Andrew Huberman Andrew Huberman Oct 13, 2025

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This episode covers the profound connection between hearing loss, cognitive decline, and dementia, emphasizing auditory health as critical for overall brain function. There are four key takeaways from this conversation. First, proactively protect your hearing to preserve long-term brain health, as preventing hearing loss helps mitigate associated cognitive decline risks. Second, be mindful that modern environmental factors, not just aging, cause hearing damage; limit noise exposure, understand the 3dB rule, and be aware of NSAID impacts. Third, when communicating with someone with hearing loss, prioritize clarity over volume by facing them, speaking slowly, and reducing background noise. Finally, for tinnitus, seek evidence-based management strategies like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and consider hearing aids if hearing loss is present, as supplements lack proven efficacy. Hearing loss impacts one and a half billion people globally. It is indirectly linked to cognitive decline because difficulty communicating often leads to social isolation and depression, which are significant risk factors for dementia. Protecting hearing therefore directly supports long-term brain health. Hearing damage is not solely an inevitable part of aging. Key modern contributors include environmental noise exposure and regular use of common medications like NSAIDs. Even temporary ringing after loud noise can indicate permanent "hidden hearing loss," causing difficulty understanding speech in noisy environments despite normal standard tests. The auditory system also follows a "two-hit model," where a second, even normally safe, noise event can cause significant damage if the ears are still recovering. For every 3-decibel increase in sound intensity, safe exposure time must be halved. Effective communication with someone experiencing hearing loss involves improving the signal quality for their brain to process. The most effective approach is not to yell, but to reduce background noise, face them, and speak slowly and clearly. Tinnitus is a neurological "phantom sound" produced by the brain, typically in response to reduced auditory input. Only two interventions are strongly supported by scientific evidence: amplification with hearing aids for those with underlying hearing loss, and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Large-scale studies have not shown supplements to be effective. Understanding these insights empowers listeners to protect their hearing and engage more effectively with auditory health challenges.

Episode Overview

  • The podcast explores the profound connection between hearing loss, cognitive decline, and dementia, framing auditory health as a critical component of overall brain health.
  • It delves into the science of tinnitus, explaining it as a "phantom sound" created by the brain, and discusses the evidence-based approaches for managing the condition, such as hearing aids and CBT.
  • The conversation covers the modern, often preventable causes of hearing damage, including noise exposure and common medications, while providing practical strategies for hearing protection.
  • The discussion highlights the significant social and psychological impact of hearing loss, including the stigma and isolation that can result from this "invisible" condition.

Key Concepts

  • Hearing Loss and Dementia: There is a well-established indirect link between hearing loss and cognitive decline. The difficulty in communication often leads to social isolation and depression, which are significant risk factors for dementia.
  • Tinnitus as a "Phantom Sound": Tinnitus is a neurological phenomenon produced by the brain in response to reduced auditory input, similar to phantom limb pain. It is considered a "black box" because the lack of sub-typing makes it difficult to research and treat effectively.
  • Evidence-Based Tinnitus Treatments: The only two interventions strongly supported by scientific evidence are amplification with hearing aids (for those with underlying hearing loss) and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT). Supplements have not been shown to be effective in large-scale studies.
  • Noise-Induced and Hidden Hearing Loss: Even temporary ringing after loud noise can indicate permanent damage to the synapses connecting hair cells to neurons. This "hidden hearing loss" can manifest as difficulty understanding speech in noisy environments even if a standard hearing test is normal.
  • The Two-Hit Model of Damage: The auditory system is more vulnerable after an initial loud noise exposure. A second, even normally safe, noise event can cause significant permanent damage if it occurs while the ears are still recovering.
  • Modern Causes of Hearing Loss: Hearing loss is not just an inevitable part of aging. Key contributors include environmental noise exposure and the regular use of common medications like NSAIDs (e.g., ibuprofen at least twice a week).
  • Communication Strategies: The most effective way to communicate with someone with hearing loss is not to yell, but to reduce background noise, face them, and speak slowly and clearly to improve the signal quality for their brain to process.
  • Brain Plasticity and Cochlear Implants: The brain has a remarkable ability to adapt to corrected sensory input, which is demonstrated by the success of cochlear implants, considered the most successful neural prosthesis available.

Quotes

  • At 0:13 - "Hearing loss is a huge problem. It currently affects one and a half billion people and disables half a billion of them." - Dr. Konstantina Stankovic emphasizes the massive global scale of hearing loss.
  • At 25:48 - "Tinnitus, it's a phantom sound. It's produced by the brain, typically in response to a reduced input to the brain. So the brain makes up the sound that it's normally not detecting." - This quote provides a clear, scientific definition of tinnitus.
  • At 36:17 - "For every 3 decibel increase in sound intensity, you have to half the time exposure that's safe." - The guest gives a simple, actionable rule for understanding the risk of noise-induced hearing damage.
  • At 83:07 - "'it's more important to face someone and speak slowly if they have hearing loss, than speaking loudly." - Dr. Anvari gives this as a key takeaway for listeners on how to effectively communicate with someone who is hard of hearing.
  • At 113:08 - "for a long time, it's been linked automatically to losing your marbles." - The speaker describes the historical and social stigma that incorrectly associates hearing loss with cognitive decline, causing people to hide their condition.

Takeaways

  • Proactively protect your hearing to preserve your long-term brain health, as preventing hearing loss helps mitigate the risk of social isolation and associated cognitive decline.
  • Be mindful that hearing damage is caused by modern environmental factors, not just aging. Limit exposure to loud noise, follow the 3dB rule for safe listening times, and be aware that regular use of NSAIDs can impact hearing.
  • If communicating with someone with hearing loss, prioritize clarity over volume. Face them, speak slowly, and reduce background noise for more effective conversation.
  • For tinnitus, seek evidence-based management strategies like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and consult a professional about hearing aids if hearing loss is present, as supplements have not been proven effective.