Is the Fed becoming Irrelevant?

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Maggie Lake Talking Markets Dec 17, 2025

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In this conversation, we explore emerging stresses within private credit, the risk of contagion from illiquid assets, and how the administration's policy of relaxed banking supervision is driving private balance sheet expansion to fund re-shoring, a strategy dubbed 'No QT is the new QE.' There are three key takeaways from this discussion. First, investors should exercise caution with illiquid private credit funds, as headlines may mask systemic issues like redemption pressures and the risk of withdrawal gates. Second, the primary source of economic stimulus is shifting from direct Federal Reserve action to indirect government policy, encouraging private banks to expand lending through deregulation. Finally, anticipate potential volatility in the long-term bond market, as current policy creates buyers for intermediate-term debt but leaves the long-duration bond supply unaddressed. Private credit markets, particularly Business Development Companies, are showing signs of internal stress. This includes unattractive risk structures in large-scale financing deals, exemplified by the OpenAI data center case, and significant redemption pressures on funds like Blue Owl. This creates a "rolling problem" for illiquid credit. When funds face redemption requests, they may gate withdrawals or convert to closed-end structures, potentially trapping investors and triggering a broader run for the exits in similar illiquid assets. The administration's core policy aims to fund re-shoring of U.S. industry by stimulating private balance sheet expansion. This is achieved primarily through the deliberate relaxation of banking regulations, encouraging banks to take on more assets. This paradigm is termed "No QT is the new QE." It signifies a shift where liquidity is injected into the system not through direct Federal Reserve quantitative easing, but by enabling private banks to absorb assets by halting the Fed's balance sheet reduction. This creates new market dynamics and risks. This policy shifts the responsibility for absorbing government debt from the price-insensitive Fed to price-sensitive private banks. These banks will require incentives, such as a steeper yield curve, to participate and buy intermediate-term government debt. However, this approach leaves a critical unresolved question regarding the marginal buyer for long-duration bonds. While it may create demand for the "belly of the curve," the long end of the market could face significant volatility and uncertainty. These interconnected dynamics highlight a significant re-engineering of market liquidity and risk, demanding careful attention from investors.

Episode Overview

  • The discussion begins by analyzing signs of stress in the private credit market, using a report about OpenAI's data center financing as a case study for unattractive deal structures and redemption pressures on funds like Blue Owl.
  • It explores the concept of a "rolling problem" in illiquid credit, where redemption gates at one fund can trigger a wider rush for the exits as investors fear being trapped.
  • The conversation then broadens to a macroeconomic thesis that the administration's core policy is to fund the re-shoring of U.S. industry by stimulating private balance sheet expansion.
  • This policy shift is framed as "No QT is the new QE," where relaxing banking supervision—rather than direct Fed intervention—is used to inject liquidity into the system, creating new market dynamics and risks.

Key Concepts

  • Private Credit Stress: The private credit market, particularly Business Development Companies (BDCs), is facing internal pressures from investor redemptions and unattractive risk structures in large-scale financing deals, such as those for data centers.
  • Illiquidity and Contagion Risk: Funds facing redemption requests may be forced to "shut the doors" by gating withdrawals or converting to closed-end structures, trapping investors and potentially triggering a broader run on similar illiquid assets.
  • Private Balance Sheet Expansion: The administration's underlying policy goal is to incentivize the private banking sector to expand its balance sheet to finance the re-shoring of American industry and supply chains.
  • Relaxed Banking Supervision: The primary tool to achieve this private sector expansion is the deliberate relaxation of banking regulations, encouraging banks to take on more assets.
  • "No QT is the new QE": This phrase encapsulates the new stimulus paradigm where the government is engineering liquidity not through the Fed's quantitative easing, but by enabling private banks to absorb assets by halting the Fed's balance sheet reduction (QT).
  • Shift to Price-Sensitive Buyers: The responsibility for absorbing government debt is shifting from the price-insensitive Fed to price-sensitive private banks, which will require incentives like a steeper yield curve to participate.
  • Unresolved Demand for Long-Term Debt: While this policy may create buyers for intermediate-term government debt (the "belly of the curve"), it leaves a critical unresolved question about who will be the marginal buyer for long-duration bonds.

Quotes

  • At 2:04 - "It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it." - Harry Melandri quoting Upton Sinclair to explain why credit managers might not be objective about the risks in their sector.
  • At 3:14 - "Blue Owl was suffering redemptions... and Blue Owl is a significant player in this." - Melandri connecting the OpenAI data center headline to the internal redemption pressures faced by the financing fund.
  • At 5:13 - "When I see a bunch of doors shutting, if I were one of the guys holding some piece of paper like that... I'd be interested in an open door. I'd be interested in seeing if I could get out before something like that happened to me." - Melandri explaining how redemption gates at one fund can trigger a run for the exits at other, similar funds.
  • At 15:47 - "This is all about the idea that the core policy of this administration, which is re-onshoring capacity and supply chains in the United States and among its allies." - Melandri identifies the primary economic and geopolitical goal that he believes is driving the administration's financial and regulatory strategy.
  • At 17:44 - "No QT is the new QE." - Melandri offers a concise one-liner to describe the new paradigm where halting quantitative tightening, combined with relaxed supervision, functions as a powerful economic stimulus.
  • At 20:00 - "Who's the buyer of the long end?" - After outlining how relaxed rules could encourage banks to buy intermediate-term government debt, Melandri raises the critical unresolved question of who will absorb long-duration bonds.

Takeaways

  • Be cautious with investments in illiquid private credit funds, as headlines about single deals may mask systemic issues like redemption pressures and the risk of withdrawal gates being implemented.
  • Recognize that the primary source of economic stimulus is shifting from direct Federal Reserve action (QE) to indirect government policy aimed at encouraging private banks to expand lending through deregulation.
  • Anticipate potential volatility and uncertainty in the long-term bond market, as the current policy shift creates buyers for intermediate-term debt but fails to address who will absorb the supply of long-duration bonds.