How Do We Get SAI Right?: Risks, Research, and the Route Forward

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Roots of Progress Institute Feb 07, 2026

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This episode explores the urgent and controversial topic of Stratospheric Aerosol Injection, a method of solar geoengineering designed to cool the planet by reflecting sunlight. There are three key takeaways from this discussion led by Dakota Gruener, CEO of Reflective. First, humanity faces a critical choice between reckless ignorance caused by research bans and responsible preparation through structured scientific inquiry. Second, without rigorous testing and global governance, the geopolitical risks of unilateral deployment may outweigh the physical risks. Third, a clinical trials framework is essential to safely study these interventions before the climate crisis forces hasty action. Let's look at these in more detail. The conversation draws a compelling parallel between the current state of geoengineering and the dangerous early days of pharmaceuticals. Just as the 1937 elixir sulfanilamide tragedy led to the creation of the FDA and clinical trials, the potential dangers of geoengineering require a structured regulatory framework. Banning research does not eliminate risk. Instead, it ensures that if deployment occurs during a future climate emergency, it will be done blindly without understanding side effects like ozone depletion or shifted precipitation patterns. This leads to the specific mechanics and risks of Stratospheric Aerosol Injection, or SAI. This process involves injecting aerosols like sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere to reflect a small percentage of sunlight, mimicking the cooling effect of large volcanic eruptions. While it is currently the most scientifically plausible method for rapid global cooling, our knowledge is stuck in a dangerous middle ground. We know enough to believe it works physically, but not enough to deploy it safely. Furthermore, the geopolitical risks are likely greater than the physical ones. Without multilateral coordination and shared data, a single nation could unilaterally deploy SAI to benefit its own region, potentially causing catastrophic droughts or weather shifts in the Global South. The discussion emphasizes that progress only scales when people trust it, suggesting that rigorous testing is not red tape but the essential mechanism for legitimizing controversial science. Finally, regarding the path forward, the talk advocates for moving away from binary debates about deployment versus banning. Instead, the focus should be on a phased research approach that uses strict stage-gates to allow scientific data collection without slipping into full-scale deployment. This includes utilizing open-source simulation tools to visualize how different strategies result in radically different outcomes for global temperature and water availability. Ultimately, preventing catastrophic tipping points may require tools like SAI to shave off peak warming, making responsible research a necessity rather than an option.

Episode Overview

  • This presentation explores the urgent and controversial topic of Stratospheric Aerosol Injection (SAI), a method of solar geoengineering designed to cool the planet by reflecting sunlight.
  • Dakota Gruener, CEO of Reflective, argues that humanity faces a critical choice between reckless ignorance caused by research bans and responsible preparation through structured scientific inquiry.
  • The talk draws parallels between the early, dangerous days of pharmaceuticals (before the FDA) and the current state of geoengineering, advocating for a "clinical trials" framework to safely study SAI before the climate crisis forces hasty, unilateral deployment.

Key Concepts

  • The "Elixir Sulfanilamide" Parallel: Just as the 1937 tragedy of a toxic antibiotic led to the creation of the FDA and clinical trials, the potential dangers of geoengineering require a structured regulatory framework. Banning research doesn't eliminate risk; it ensures that if deployment happens during a climate emergency, it will be done blindly without understanding safety or side effects.
  • Stratospheric Aerosol Injection (SAI) Mechanics: SAI involves injecting aerosols (like sulfur dioxide) into the stratosphere to reflect a small percentage of sunlight, mimicking the cooling effect of large volcanic eruptions like Mount Pinatubo. It is currently the most scientifically plausible method for rapid, global cooling, acting much faster than carbon removal or emissions reduction.
  • The Danger of the "Middle Ground": Current scientific knowledge is stuck in a dangerous middle ground. We know enough to believe SAI could work physically, but not enough about the specific risks (like ozone depletion or shifted precipitation patterns) to deploy it safely. This ignorance is exacerbated by the cancellation of small-scale outdoor experiments due to public opposition.
  • Geopolitical vs. Physical Risks: While physical risks (e.g., changing monsoon patterns) are real, the geopolitical risks are likely greater. Without multilateral coordination and shared data, a single nation could unilaterally deploy SAI to benefit itself (e.g., cooling the Northern Hemisphere), potentially causing catastrophic droughts or weather shifts in the Global South.
  • Tipping Points and Overshoot: Climate modeling suggests that avoiding catastrophic tipping points may require keeping peak warming under 2.5°C and limiting "overshoot" (time spent above 1.5°C) to less than 30 years. Since we are already crossing these thresholds, mitigation alone may be insufficient, making SAI a potential necessary tool to shave off peak warming.

Quotes

  • At 1:23 - "For the first time we built a system to test powerful medicines before they were given to millions... These guardrails didn't kill innovation, they saved it." - Explaining how regulation and structured testing are necessary to build the public trust required for powerful technologies to scale.
  • At 5:01 - "If we ban this research, these decisions don't disappear... The deadline doesn't go away... Those decisions won't just disappear, they will arrive later, but they will arrive in crisis and without the evidence that we need." - Highlighting the fallacy that ignoring geoengineering will prevent it from happening, when in reality, climate escalation makes future deployment decisions inevitable.
  • At 17:23 - "The lesson is that progress only scales when people trust it. Clinical trials didn't succeed because they slowed medicine down, they succeeded because they made medicine legitimate." - Clarifying that a rigorous testing framework is not red tape, but the essential mechanism for legitimizing controversial science.

Takeaways

  • Advocate for a "Clinical Trials" Model for Climate Interventions: Instead of binary "deploy vs. ban" debates, push for a phased research approach (Phase 1: Microphysics, Phase 2: Controlled Dispersion) that uses strict stage-gates to allow scientific data collection without slipping into full-scale deployment.
  • Utilize Open-Source Simulation Tools: engage with tools like the Reflective simulator to visualize how different deployment strategies (e.g., Northern Hemisphere-only vs. balanced injection) result in radically different outcomes for global temperature and water availability.
  • Shift the Focus to Governance and Multilateralism: When evaluating geoengineering proposals, prioritize the governance structure over the technology itself. Ensure that any research or potential deployment plans include mechanisms for international coordination to prevent zero-sum geopolitical conflicts.