Bogleheads® 2022 Conference – Financial and Portfolio Planning for Retirees and Pre Retirees

Bogleheads Bogleheads Dec 08, 2022

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This episode covers realistic retirement spending estimates, income strategies, and critical risk management tools. There are four key takeaways from this discussion. First, understand and accurately estimate your retirement spending patterns, especially the non linear "spending smile." Second, implement flexible income strategies, leveraging Social Security delays for tax efficiency and using dynamic withdrawal approaches. Third, view specialized financial products as risk management tools for longevity, liquidity, and care. Finally, prioritize ongoing plan flexibility and ensure a financially uninvolved spouse is prepared with a clear informal estate plan. Retirement spending is rarely linear, often following a "spending smile" pattern with higher initial expenses, a decline in mid retirement, and a potential increase later due to healthcare. Accurately estimate your own needs by tracking current spending, which serves as the most reliable predictor for future expenditures. Delaying Social Security is a powerful strategy, allowing for tax efficient Roth conversions during lower income years while bridging the gap with consistent asset allocation. While the 4 percent rule provides a useful guideline, practical application often demands dynamic withdrawal methods. A bucket strategy, holding several years of expenses in cash, offers a psychological buffer against market downturns. View financial products primarily as risk management tools. Annuities can act as insurance against longevity risk, creating a personal pension rather than serving as an investment vehicle. Home equity, accessed via reverse mortgages or HELOCs, provides critical liquidity to mitigate sequence of returns risk during market downturns, while long term care insurance addresses potential future health costs. Always seek unconflicted advice when evaluating these options. Flexibility and regular plan adjustments are paramount; rigid adherence to a single strategy is impractical. Crucially, prepare a financially uninvolved spouse by creating an informal estate plan. This simple document outlines accounts, contacts, and instructions, ensuring smooth financial management during challenging times. Ultimately, successful retirement planning hinges on adaptability, strategic use of financial tools, and proactive preparedness for unforeseen circumstances.

Episode Overview

  • The panel discusses how to realistically estimate spending in retirement, accounting for the "retirement spending smile" where expenses change over time.
  • Experts evaluate various retirement income strategies, including bridging the gap to Social Security, the modern relevance of the 4% rule, and flexible "bucket" approaches.
  • The conversation covers using different financial products as risk management tools, such as annuities for longevity risk, home equity for sequence of returns risk, and long-term care insurance.
  • A central theme is the critical importance of flexibility, regular plan reviews, and adjusting to market conditions rather than rigidly adhering to a single withdrawal rate.
  • The discussion concludes with practical advice on preparing a financially uninvolved spouse to manage finances in the event of a partner's death.

Key Concepts

  • Retirement Spending Smile: The concept that retirement spending is not linear; it's often highest in the early "go-go" years, declines in the middle, and may rise again later due to healthcare needs.
  • Bridging to Social Security: The strategy of funding the income gap between an early retirement date and a delayed Social Security start date by maintaining a consistent asset allocation and using the low-income years for strategic Roth conversions.
  • Annuities as Insurance: The clarification that annuities, particularly simple Single Premium Immediate Annuities (SPIAs), should be viewed as insurance products to manage longevity risk by creating a personal pension, not as investment vehicles for generating high returns.
  • The 4% Rule as a Guideline: The consensus that the 4% rule is a valid starting point for planning but is rarely followed rigidly in practice. Flexibility and regular plan adjustments are more critical for success.
  • Variable Withdrawal & Bucket Strategies: The use of dynamic withdrawal methods, like the bucket strategy, where 1-4 years of expenses are held in cash to provide a psychological buffer and avoid selling assets during market downturns.
  • Home Equity as a Buffer Asset: Tapping into home equity through tools like reverse mortgages or HELOCs can serve as a source of liquidity to fund expenses during down markets, mitigating sequence of returns risk.
  • Spousal Financial Preparedness: The necessity of creating an "informal estate plan"—a simple document detailing accounts, passwords, professional contacts, and instructions—to help a financially uninvolved spouse manage finances.

Quotes

  • At 4:48 - "A lot of folks, they don't necessarily know the answer to this... You've got to track your spending, figure out what you actually are spending, what you're spending it on." - Jon Luskin emphasizes that understanding one's actual spending is a critical and often overlooked first step in determining retirement readiness.
  • At 6:33 - "In terms of where you should invest your money, even as you're spending it, I kind of view you should have an asset allocation." - Rob Berger argues for maintaining a consistent asset allocation for the whole portfolio, even during the "bridge" years before claiming Social Security.
  • At 8:33 - "They're delaying Social Security... they can engineer their income levels over multiple years and they're trying to create this window where they can do Roth conversions." - Steve Chen highlights how delaying Social Security can be used as a powerful tax planning tool for Roth conversions.
  • At 13:00 - "An annuity is an insurance product. It's not an investment product. And if you're using it, think of it like an insurance." - Steve Chen stresses that the primary purpose of an annuity should be viewed as managing risk rather than generating investment returns.
  • At 21:57 - "I've only met one person who ever told me that in retirement they actually followed the 4% rule, and that person's name was Bill Bengen." - Rob Berger highlighting the theoretical nature of the 4% rule versus its practical application.
  • At 25:01 - "That's going to be more important than whatever strategy you choose... don't go forward blindly every single year not making any adjustments to your plan." - Jon Luskin emphasizing that ongoing monitoring and flexibility are more critical than the specific withdrawal strategy itself.
  • At 27:00 - "If you retired in 1974... you actually did okay. And if you retired in '73, you barely made it. There's one year difference." - Rob Berger illustrating the significant impact of sequence of returns risk based on just a single year's difference in retirement start date.
  • At 34:46 - "Don't ask the insurance salesman if you should buy long-term care insurance." - Jon Luskin advising on the importance of seeking unconflicted advice when considering insurance products.

Takeaways

  • To create a realistic retirement budget, start tracking your current expenses meticulously, as this is the best predictor of your future needs.
  • Maintain your long-term asset allocation when bridging the gap to Social Security and strategically use those lower-income years for tax-advantaged Roth conversions.
  • Implement a "bucket strategy" by holding several years of living expenses in cash to reduce the emotional stress of market volatility and avoid selling equities at a loss.
  • View complex financial products through a lens of risk management; use annuities for longevity, home equity for liquidity, and insurance for care costs, always seeking unconflicted advice.
  • Create an "informal estate plan" by writing a simple letter with all financial account details, contacts, and instructions to ensure your spouse can easily take over finances if needed.