Biggest Thing in Macro (guests: Lyn Alden, Brent Kochuba and Kuppy)
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Show transcript
This episode examines Lyn Alden's thesis on the end of a 40-year macroeconomic cycle, shifting from monetary to fiscal dominance and structural inflation.
This discussion reveals three pivotal insights. First, it highlights a profound macroeconomic regime change, moving from monetary policy dominance and disinflation to fiscal leadership and structural inflation. Second, the analysis details the reversal of globalization, a shift from supply chain efficiency to resiliency, and its impact on U.S. asset outperformance amid evolving policy priorities. Third, it presents an aggressive bull case for uranium, driven by a structural deficit and unique market dynamics.
The past era saw U.S. capital market outperformance. Now, government spending and broad money supply growth meeting supply constraints suggest a structurally inflationary decade. Old investment strategies may no longer apply as the focus shifts from the Fed to fiscal policy.
The pandemic accelerated globalization's reversal, prioritizing resiliency and onshoring over efficiency, an inherently inflationary process. Decades of policies, including the petrodollar system and labor arbitrage, hollowed out domestic industry and led to wealth concentration. These factors now create political pressure for populist fiscal policies aimed at supporting median households, likely favoring different asset classes.
A long-term supply deficit in uranium is exacerbated by the Sprott Physical Uranium Trust. This trust issues shares to buy physical uranium when it trades above its Net Asset Value, creating a powerful, reflexive buying loop. Utilities, as price-inelastic end-users, must buy at higher prices, further strengthening the bull case.
Investors should therefore diversify portfolios, aligning with these significant macroeconomic and structural shifts defining the next decade.
Episode Overview
- Lyn Alden presents a thesis on the end of a 40-year macroeconomic cycle, arguing for a shift from an era of monetary dominance and U.S. asset outperformance to one of fiscal dominance and structural inflation.
- The discussion explores how the petrodollar system and policies favoring capital over labor led to the "hollowing out" of U.S. manufacturing and extreme wealth concentration.
- The COVID-19 pandemic is framed as an accelerator of pre-existing trends, particularly the reversal of globalization and the shift from supply chain efficiency to resiliency.
- The episode concludes with market-specific analysis, highlighting fragility in the short-term options market and presenting an aggressive bull case for uranium driven by a structural supply deficit and a powerful new physical trust.
Key Concepts
- End of a 40-Year Macro Cycle: A multi-decade period defined by monetary policy dominance, disinflation, and U.S. asset outperformance is giving way to a new regime of fiscal dominance and structural inflation.
- Petrodollar System & Triffin Dilemma: The U.S. role as the global reserve currency issuer necessitates running trade deficits, which created structural demand for dollars but hollowed out the domestic industrial base.
- Labor Arbitrage: U.S. corporations extensively outsourced skilled labor, leading to a unique and dramatic divergence between productivity growth and median wage stagnation since the 1980s.
- Wealth Concentration: Decades of specific policy choices have resulted in the U.S. having one of the highest mean wealths but lowest median wealths among developed nations.
- COVID as an Accelerator: The pandemic is not creating new macro trends but is speeding up existing ones, such as the peak and reversal of globalization.
- Peak Globalization: Measured by global trade as a percentage of global GDP, globalization peaked in 2008 and has been in a stagnant-to-declining trend since.
- Efficiency vs. Resiliency: The economic focus is shifting from maximizing supply chain efficiency (prioritizing low cost) to rebuilding supply chain resiliency (prioritizing reliability and onshoring), which is an inflationary process.
- Options Market Fragility: Extreme complacency is priced into very short-term options, creating a fragile market structure where an average-sized move could trigger significant volatility.
- Uranium Structural Deficit: A long-term supply deficit in the uranium market is being amplified by the Sprott Physical Uranium Trust (SPUT), which is sequestering physical supply from a thin spot market.
- Reflexive Buying in Uranium: The SPUT's mechanism of issuing new shares to buy physical uranium when it trades above its Net Asset Value (NAV) creates a powerful, self-reinforcing upward price loop.
Quotes
- At 2:47 - "The biggest question in macro is how...how much longer lasting can this kind of engine of...US say capital market outperformance continue." - Lyn Alden framing the core question of her analysis.
- At 4:09 - "In 1974, the US kind of salvaged this by making deals with Saudi Arabia and the rest of OPEC and said, 'Okay, so you guys are big oil exports, so we want you to only sell that oil in dollars.'" - Lyn Alden explaining the foundational deal of the petrodollar system.
- At 8:52 - "The median wealth... the United States has one of the lowest median wealth per capita in the world among advanced nations." - Lyn Alden highlighting the stark wealth concentration in the U.S. by comparing its mean versus median wealth figures.
- At 10:20 - "I think a big theme is that we're shifting away from a period of monetary dominance... to a period of fiscal dominance." - Lyn Alden identifying the fundamental macroeconomic regime change that she believes is currently underway.
- At 13:46 - "So I think the biggest theme is just that the things that worked for the past 10, 20, 30, 40 years are not necessarily the things that are going to work for the next 10 years." - Lyn Alden stating the primary investment implication of the shift to a new macroeconomic environment.
- At 18:24 - "I do think the underlying trend for the decade is one of structural inflation because we have broad money supply growth meeting some of those supply constraints." - Lyn Alden offering a nuanced perspective on the inflation debate, distinguishing between short-term effects and a longer-term structural trend.
- At 24:49 - "Hold up America the empire at the cost of kind of America the country." - A succinct summary of the trade-off made by the US in prioritizing its global reserve currency status.
- At 25:50 - "We disconnected that. And so you saw this giant disconnect where labor productivity kept increasing linearly, whereas wages went flat." - Describing the chart that shows US worker productivity and compensation diverging dramatically since the early 1980s.
- At 26:22 - "I generally look at ESG as a source of alpha because it basically tells you what is... hated... So I'm happy to go and buy things that are, you know, kind of pushed aside for non-financial reasons." - Lyn Alden describing her contrarian approach to ESG investing.
- At 28:41 - "We have among the highest ratios of mean to median wealth in the developed world. And that was not really present decades ago, but that's been a byproduct of these set of policy choices we've had in place now for 40-50 years." - Directly linking the current wealth disparity to long-term policy decisions.
- At 54:26 - "My bias is to kind of look as much as possible forward through it and say that... I think that eventually humans are going to have to just learn in some ways to just live with this." - Lyn Alden explains her forward-looking perspective on how society will adapt to COVID-19 becoming endemic.
- At 55:54 - "So I I view it as an accelerator more so than a change." - Alden presents her central thesis that the pandemic is speeding up pre-existing macro trends rather than creating new ones.
- At 57:19 - "We've really kind of sacrificed resiliency for efficiency... And so that was part of that that labor arbitrage I talked about... we sacrificed resiliency for efficiency." - Alden describes the key economic trade-off of the last 25 years, where companies prioritized low costs over robust supply chains.
- At 85:20 - "All it would take to blow those traders out would be a pretty average, historically average move." - Brent Kochuba highlights the significant risk taken by sellers of short-term volatility.
- At 87:21 - "Traders three days out are expecting nothing to happen." - Kochuba summarizes the stark contrast between the market's short-term and long-term volatility expectations.
- At 102:33 - "This will be the greatest speculative insanity bubble, I think, of my professional career." - Harris Kupperman shares his extremely bullish outlook on the uranium market.
- At 104:53 - "If it trades above NAV, this thing will issue as many shares as it possibly can and it will buy uranium... It's a very simple calculation." - Kupperman explains the powerful reflexive buying mechanism of the Sprott Physical Uranium Trust (SPUT).
- At 107:31 - "Anyone who owns a bitcoin, eventually is gonna be a seller of a bitcoin... this is very different... Here as the price goes up, [utilities] still have to buy more." - Kupperman contrasts the uranium market, which has price-inelastic end-users, with speculative assets.
- At 113:07 - "This will keep going until a government steps in... A government is going to step in when a power plant panics and that's going to be a couple hundred dollar uranium." - Kupperman predicts that political risk will only become a factor after uranium prices have moved substantially higher.
- At 115:02 - "People come to me and say, 'Kuppy, which juniors do you like?' And the answer is, I don't like any of them... I just want to be as piggish as possible." - Kupperman explains his preference for owning the physical uranium trust for direct exposure.
Takeaways
- Prepare portfolios for a structurally inflationary decade by shifting allocation towards value stocks, commodities, energy, and international equities.
- Recognize that the 40-year tailwind for U.S. capital markets, which came at the expense of domestic labor, is likely reversing due to political and social pressures.
- Invest in companies and sectors poised to benefit from the trend of re-shoring and rebuilding resilient supply chains, such as industrials and raw material producers.
- Use prevailing narratives like ESG as a contrarian indicator to identify underinvested and potentially undervalued sectors that are being ignored for non-financial reasons.
- Anticipate continued populist fiscal policies aimed at supporting the median household, which will be inflationary and favor different asset classes than those of the past decade.
- Shift focus from monetary policy (the Fed) to fiscal policy (government spending) as the primary driver of economic growth and market trends going forward.
- Diversify portfolios beyond the U.S.-centric, growth-heavy allocation that has performed well for decades, as the underlying macroeconomic drivers are changing.
- Be aware of hidden market fragility, such as the complacency in short-term options, which could lead to sudden and sharp increases in volatility.
- Understand that the reversal of globalization is an inherently inflationary process that will put upward pressure on the costs of goods and labor.
- In the uranium market, consider direct exposure to the physical commodity via trusts to capitalize on the structural deficit and reflexive buying loop.
- Acknowledge that unlike speculative assets, uranium has price-inelastic end-users (utilities) who are forced to buy at higher prices, creating a unique and powerful bull case.
- Look beyond the immediate effects of the pandemic to understand how it is accelerating long-term structural shifts that will define the next decade of investing.